{"id":"q9edb36430acc93f8fff4","batch_id":"batch-000153","seq":46,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T06:49:06.849Z","text":"洗钱来证明诈骗是不可能的","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qf4271a5cf3b2dc676dc2","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9edb36430acc93f8fff4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4271a5cf3b2dc676dc2","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000153","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000153","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9edb36430acc93f8fff4","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9edb36430acc93f8fff4/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/q9edb36430acc93f8fff4","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q63dd1a4d2ece95c8ba05","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T06:48:20.779Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q63dd1a4d2ece95c8ba05"},{"id":"q5a696d550dfd87b0b1d3","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T06:48:32.301Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a696d550dfd87b0b1d3"},{"id":"qf4271a5cf3b2dc676dc2","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-27T06:48:52.911Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4271a5cf3b2dc676dc2"},{"id":"q8416372903129d31038a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T06:49:32.374Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8416372903129d31038a"},{"id":"q5fd90f03d446f3d2daed","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T06:49:42.800Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fd90f03d446f3d2daed"},{"id":"qaf61992f1a470aa3c924","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-27T06:49:47.401Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf61992f1a470aa3c924"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qf4271a5cf3b2dc676dc2","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-27T06:48:52.911Z","text":"我之前也说过，这个地方其实就是循环论证，用洗钱诈骗来证明诈骗洗钱。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4271a5cf3b2dc676dc2"}}