{"id":"qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":473,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-31T03:42:23.088Z","text":"印象中，saraka等的gtv款给了sec，然后还交了罚款和利息。但魏那边，就是不交，sec也没有去较真，然后就拖到了刑事案。魏一直拖着不退钱，如果郭这边不被刑事起诉，那么魏那边就要被起诉。共产党要赢，就必须把以魏为代表的演员们的截留，侵占，挪用，欺诈转移，用rico变成郭的责任。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7501a388169ab07b92ba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa0ae3c00acd5024cb86d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qff921688139437c2481d","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:39:15.356Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff921688139437c2481d"},{"id":"q44e1595c0e10ae239b20","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:39:18.629Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44e1595c0e10ae239b20"},{"id":"q213e41f86388c40a1c95","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:40:26.543Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q213e41f86388c40a1c95"},{"id":"qc6ceb8c298b7466573ca","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-31T03:42:49.012Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc6ceb8c298b7466573ca"},{"id":"qeed3b15bfba89a832647","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:43:14.983Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeed3b15bfba89a832647"},{"id":"q68fd5b5a658526ebf4fa","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:44:17.252Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68fd5b5a658526ebf4fa"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q7501a388169ab07b92ba","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T03:35:12.058Z","text":"魏的VOG群里说法，似乎是，帮忙登记投资信息，然后找sec公平基金，退款 ［用户 beg***］我不太确定","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7501a388169ab07b92ba"}}