{"id":"qa1dd4e54b7748ecb7a10","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":904,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T04:28:33.661Z","text":"这还只是谈检方，在处理farm loan没收过程中的猫腻","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q9670737f690c1416432a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1dd4e54b7748ecb7a10","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9670737f690c1416432a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1dd4e54b7748ecb7a10","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa1dd4e54b7748ecb7a10/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa1dd4e54b7748ecb7a10","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qe3708883119f29139109","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T04:09:29.937Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3708883119f29139109"},{"id":"q277113a66592a8fc1cdc","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T04:17:45.392Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q277113a66592a8fc1cdc"},{"id":"q9670737f690c1416432a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-09T04:26:49.987Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9670737f690c1416432a"},{"id":"qd27ac0fdfc3b55c4a583","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T04:32:05.490Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd27ac0fdfc3b55c4a583"},{"id":"q41b580326f682be11c10","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T04:59:23.169Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41b580326f682be11c10"},{"id":"q05d1dce3a39b2b3d0478","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T06:12:40.767Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q05d1dce3a39b2b3d0478"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9670737f690c1416432a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-09T04:26:49.987Z","text":"政府的主张是：投资款和会员费的流入即郭的可没收权益，托雷斯在858里予以确认，而mos和maywind里的农场借贷资金，理所当然已经被政府主张了没收并被法院确认，但没收清单里没有。所以已经不存在是否被划入了没收，而是对已经包含在对郭的个人没收和金钱判决的涉案资金，政府为何长时间的不冻结，不追缴，要么就是政府任性的选择性执法？要么涵盖在了不起诉协议里。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9670737f690c1416432a"}}