{"id":"qa32a8856843ea1c8c2ff","batch_id":"batch-000074","seq":968,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-29T08:48:57.562Z","text":"应该没啥意义了，发动议只能是把这些投资人被联盟组织行动爆出来，这也对被告不利，同时这群人的身份同样也会被污染，","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q22a5fb0856fd38482dd8","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32a8856843ea1c8c2ff","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22a5fb0856fd38482dd8","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000074/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32a8856843ea1c8c2ff","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32a8856843ea1c8c2ff/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa32a8856843ea1c8c2ff","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q1f414287864e0cf028ae","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-29T08:29:31.172Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f414287864e0cf028ae"},{"id":"qd4887b4568025313f2cd","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-29T08:34:55.633Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4887b4568025313f2cd"},{"id":"qb06f5963cfac7cefbe33","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-29T08:42:25.789Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb06f5963cfac7cefbe33"},{"id":"qc168c44c5155943f885a","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-29T08:49:57.561Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc168c44c5155943f885a"},{"id":"qcb1b129b7496d73f4d85","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-29T08:50:41.559Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb1b129b7496d73f4d85"},{"id":"qb31ec8bef6a0add6959d","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-29T08:54:10.217Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb31ec8bef6a0add6959d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q22a5fb0856fd38482dd8","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-01-29T02:54:42.840Z","text":"是不是能CRVA发动议 要求审查这些声称 investor/customer的身份\n没收时 投资者就该发claim 索赔\n证明钱是我的不是郭的\n\n这批人大概率是被盖尔代理了\n如果有证据 投资证明 显示投资发生在犯罪crime（郭“洗钱”罪 也就是老班长转钱时候）之前\n那么这批人 就该被定义是853n 而不是只看盖尔的代理身份（之前的投资证据 在盖尔那里被截留 法官看不到 只能听盖尔一面之词）","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22a5fb0856fd38482dd8"}}