{"id":"qa46e34bbb167af645239","batch_id":"batch-000137","seq":471,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-20T09:57:49.244Z","text":"可以。因为没收逻辑是：确定的损失即是已经成为实质上的郭的个人财产的犯罪所得，luc可以主张这些钱与郭的其它个人财产混同，所以它也可以主张债权。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q1c32a20532034b897392","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46e34bbb167af645239","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c32a20532034b897392","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000137","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000137","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46e34bbb167af645239","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa46e34bbb167af645239/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa46e34bbb167af645239","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q1c32a20532034b897392","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-20T09:54:48.623Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c32a20532034b897392"},{"id":"qbac53ac2b4dd186ff099","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-20T09:55:43.728Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbac53ac2b4dd186ff099"},{"id":"q31802b5b18be06432cb0","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-20T09:57:44.577Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q31802b5b18be06432cb0"},{"id":"q5a6673061fbf7f8b2508","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-20T09:59:14.620Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5a6673061fbf7f8b2508"},{"id":"qc80c8109f8242e9c172e","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-20T10:01:49.944Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc80c8109f8242e9c172e"},{"id":"q8b038684ab7649417822","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-20T10:02:30.683Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b038684ab7649417822"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q1c32a20532034b897392","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-20T09:54:48.623Z","text":"［用户 reb***］  ［用户 kir***］ \n如果郭案没收，没有GTV，那破产案luc，还有没有资格进来？\n他登记的债权人，应该大多数是早期GTV投资","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1c32a20532034b897392"}}