{"id":"qa562fb60addb34306d2c","batch_id":"batch-000100","seq":508,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:37:05.801Z","text":"这么说 感觉确实像邪教啊\n郭不是实际控制 而是精神洗脑🤣","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q4c3fd7c198b287e77f59","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa562fb60addb34306d2c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3fd7c198b287e77f59","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000100/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa562fb60addb34306d2c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa562fb60addb34306d2c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa562fb60addb34306d2c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q85be39ebdac4fc188ae4","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:30:43.316Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q85be39ebdac4fc188ae4"},{"id":"q2e6cd9a6466d39818457","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:34:46.180Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e6cd9a6466d39818457"},{"id":"q693fb20da2793216ad88","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:35:42.756Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q693fb20da2793216ad88"},{"id":"qcbc6250274b549d8389d","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-04-11T02:37:19.993Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbc6250274b549d8389d"},{"id":"qa43d215b4d626e69b905","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:37:59.631Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa43d215b4d626e69b905"},{"id":"q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-04-11T02:39:13.254Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c1e9a63d94ea7addf64"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q4c3fd7c198b287e77f59","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-04-11T01:15:27.833Z","text":"法官不当裁量往往与不是法律意义上的犯罪结合起来说，比如本案，rico讲求实际控制，黑社会通过暴力，胁迫完成实际控制，在爆料革命这个开放社区，检方根本没有独立证明有实际控制，不能说一句被告把投资者和共谋犯洗脑了就叫实际控制，这个就要与法官允许检方向大陪审团提交新证据修改起诉书结合起来说。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4c3fd7c198b287e77f59"}}