{"id":"qa5634ff52844a418ebb0","batch_id":"batch-000151","seq":183,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T08:50:57.845Z","text":"王的最终没收已经明确了是几百万了，现在补充初步没收令里的gtv，如果不能把于建民引渡到美国，就得找至少一个能够被抓的人来背，不然最终没收令里就得去掉。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5634ff52844a418ebb0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5634ff52844a418ebb0","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa5634ff52844a418ebb0/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa5634ff52844a418ebb0","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qc255cb800c35ebb53a59","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T06:54:27.635Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc255cb800c35ebb53a59"},{"id":"q903cba2844a65ef3b437","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-25T06:57:54.254Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q903cba2844a65ef3b437"},{"id":"q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T08:34:49.841Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac"},{"id":"qe340cd84028ee241e79b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-25T08:51:42.956Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe340cd84028ee241e79b"},{"id":"q56b3e00fca9bd04da3c0","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T08:54:53.529Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q56b3e00fca9bd04da3c0"},{"id":"q752d6ea35ff7e89456d2","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-25T08:55:45.644Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q752d6ea35ff7e89456d2"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q97dacbeaba02dac857ac","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-25T08:34:49.841Z","text":"［用户 roy***］ 能不能问下AI\n这部分，我之前可能没有表达清楚\n858认定了郭的8.9亿涉案金额，剔除掉GTV\n但是在没收清单GXZ26里，并没有剔除GTV的部分，反而是随后公告，增加了几个没收账户\n是不是可以说，政府已经利用王的plea guilty，认定GTV仍然涉及 fraud proceeds\n也就是说，虽然郭案GTV无罪，郭个人涉案8.9亿。但是因为王案plea guilty在先，于是总涉案资金，按原有没收清单，还是14亿？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q97dacbeaba02dac857ac"}}