{"id":"qa565a414ba5d81e35f69","batch_id":"batch-000042","seq":497,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-25T03:05:47.230Z","text":"这案子说明一个问题 光靠司法 信仰这些 是不行的。 需要有帝王之术","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6cf92b672de0d7e0a554","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa565a414ba5d81e35f69","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf92b672de0d7e0a554","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000042","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa565a414ba5d81e35f69","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa565a414ba5d81e35f69/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa565a414ba5d81e35f69","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6462aa9cc3afc42b4a06","speaker":"aiz***","date":"2025-09-25T03:02:57.100Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6462aa9cc3afc42b4a06"},{"id":"q6cf92b672de0d7e0a554","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-25T03:03:12.707Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf92b672de0d7e0a554"},{"id":"q65f1fd227623c65f9ef0","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-25T03:05:45.202Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65f1fd227623c65f9ef0"},{"id":"q5e3ccc80c241ff9b55cc","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-25T03:09:11.053Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e3ccc80c241ff9b55cc"},{"id":"qb853422350824f928823","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-25T03:14:11.412Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb853422350824f928823"},{"id":"qfa305367b90dd3abfd3f","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-25T03:14:52.501Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfa305367b90dd3abfd3f"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q6cf92b672de0d7e0a554","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-25T03:03:12.707Z","text":"没有信仰成就啥霸业呢？就和老百姓没有信仰，那么就不会有法治民主一个道理\n你看几千的G系列投资者们，就是因为没有信仰，他们听大V的，听联盟的，听这听那，就是不主动去就七哥，这就是典型的没有信仰，只听别人说，自己一点都不行动\n没信仰不配有法治民主，因为法治民主需要信仰来维护，否则就会崩塌\n美国肯定是有信仰的Charlie Kirk就说明了\n司法有黑暗也没错，但是这不是我这种普通人可以掀桌的\n川普都不愿意掀，我掀个毛线，也没人搭理","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6cf92b672de0d7e0a554"}}