{"id":"qa71100560df3234de897","batch_id":"batch-000119","seq":566,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-16T00:55:32.328Z","text":"luc制造出来的东西，让起诉得到批准和保释被拒，然后才能走到王认罪这一步。理论上王认罪陪审团不知道，但法官知道，接下来法官的一些裁定（比如388），庭审过程中对证人询问过程中对各方反对的处理，对陪审团的法律指导，都会产生影响，但luc用违法手段制造的追回欺诈转移，用g系列资产支付破产调查费用这些法律事实被呈现给陪审团，也对陪审团产生了严重误导，李亚的证词所反映的“事实”，也是基于破产法院确认了g系列属于郭的基础上，但这一前提并不存在。它们一环扣一环的推进程序，不去看那个前提，整个叙事能够自圆其说。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q485bf780e57bfd202510","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71100560df3234de897","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q485bf780e57bfd202510","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71100560df3234de897","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa71100560df3234de897/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qa71100560df3234de897","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8fe54a74d3b10555355e","speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-06-16T00:54:41.060Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8fe54a74d3b10555355e"},{"id":"qa9e6c4d7ac0e2c21e14e","speaker":"wen***","date":"2026-06-16T00:55:11.179Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa9e6c4d7ac0e2c21e14e"},{"id":"q2d97787ad6e0dce75768","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-16T00:55:29.081Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2d97787ad6e0dce75768"},{"id":"q29f9344e388d332e8a20","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T00:58:14.213Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q29f9344e388d332e8a20"},{"id":"q6e05fb6d01383ea22dc3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T00:59:15.304Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e05fb6d01383ea22dc3"},{"id":"qce9db87f1831432a2def","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-16T01:00:45.646Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce9db87f1831432a2def"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q485bf780e57bfd202510","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T00:39:31.551Z","text":"这里，是不是说，郭的定罪和没收，因为王案的认罪，基本定型，有没有luc，影响不大？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q485bf780e57bfd202510"}}