{"id":"qaa71c407b6165be033f0","batch_id":"batch-000020","seq":109,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T09:08:32.927Z","text":"如果初步没收令不得不下来 我觉得法官会全部驳回","edited":false,"reply_to":"qa32c45b4111d897c751b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa71c407b6165be033f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32c45b4111d897c751b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000020","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa71c407b6165be033f0","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaa71c407b6165be033f0/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qaa71c407b6165be033f0","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8921ca129d2a46707869","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T08:48:16.687Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8921ca129d2a46707869"},{"id":"q2389a50a7f43ef65cc93","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T08:48:51.330Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2389a50a7f43ef65cc93"},{"id":"qa32c45b4111d897c751b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T09:07:13.424Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32c45b4111d897c751b"},{"id":"q61ac0198865ac935a8c6","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T09:08:39.509Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61ac0198865ac935a8c6"},{"id":"qc98558ac04d541f896b0","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T09:08:41.588Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98558ac04d541f896b0"},{"id":"qbed55b9a964787fc5f5a","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-28T09:08:43.830Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbed55b9a964787fc5f5a"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qa32c45b4111d897c751b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-07-28T09:07:13.424Z","text":"那既然法官都被问了，法官为了不枉法，不得不排除那些非法名单后，它自己就看着办了。没有受害者，没有实体犯罪，只因为陪审团认为被告有诈骗意图，当法庭上有人质疑检方的几千受害者举报没有证据支撑时，你依然假装检方就是收到了几千受害者而不去质疑，然后任性给个仅凭诈骗意图的最高处罚？它很可能这么做。但如果法官真的不枉法按照第三方动议驳回那些名单和驳回luc根据破产法庭令来要钱的请求。这时律师不得不有所作为了。再不作为拿就是比之前的律师更加明显的配合陷害了。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa32c45b4111d897c751b"}}