{"id":"qab9adb26e557ace20789","batch_id":"batch-000070","seq":228,"speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-17T06:58:58.450Z","text":"知道呀，刚开始是用有经济关系的债权人为依据抓人的，但是债权人还远不能充足作为证据金融欺诈定罪，于是资产冻结后，投资人遭到损失成为实际受害人再拿来佐证被告欺诈就很有结构性问题了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q89016f1c1e19eaeaa4d0","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab9adb26e557ace20789","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89016f1c1e19eaeaa4d0","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000070/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000070/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab9adb26e557ace20789","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab9adb26e557ace20789/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qab9adb26e557ace20789","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q202328ed12d1aaa82e5c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-17T06:41:44.563Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q202328ed12d1aaa82e5c"},{"id":"q1014889a113be33e6762","speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-17T06:42:32.780Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1014889a113be33e6762"},{"id":"q89016f1c1e19eaeaa4d0","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-17T06:52:57.997Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89016f1c1e19eaeaa4d0"},{"id":"qa09822201089ed861327","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-17T06:59:48.899Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa09822201089ed861327"},{"id":"q378e81724f72d1b07a7c","speaker":"mia***","date":"2026-01-17T07:19:05.871Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q378e81724f72d1b07a7c"},{"id":"qeb61b2a7f556f5cb03fc","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-01-17T09:07:58.585Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb61b2a7f556f5cb03fc"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q89016f1c1e19eaeaa4d0","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-17T06:52:57.997Z","text":"这个案子不用恶意制造受害者也可以抓人","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89016f1c1e19eaeaa4d0"}}