{"id":"qababfd599455ae099ffd","batch_id":"batch-000033","seq":911,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-08T01:44:38.042Z","text":"这个都是可能性 你根本不知道到底抓人的逻辑是什么","edited":false,"reply_to":"qdcf6c549f1d5a57ea719","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qababfd599455ae099ffd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcf6c549f1d5a57ea719","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000033","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qababfd599455ae099ffd","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qababfd599455ae099ffd/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qababfd599455ae099ffd","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qdcf6c549f1d5a57ea719","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-08T01:41:40.643Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcf6c549f1d5a57ea719"},{"id":"q32789469bdc7c53fbd21","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-08T01:42:09.886Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q32789469bdc7c53fbd21"},{"id":"q4e7842a0a4f93cc36f94","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-08T01:44:02.802Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e7842a0a4f93cc36f94"},{"id":"q1a3a10493ccdbeeb5c07","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-08T01:45:48.331Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1a3a10493ccdbeeb5c07"},{"id":"q5379f7217b7cf14c6bfb","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-09-08T01:46:57.348Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5379f7217b7cf14c6bfb"},{"id":"qbdf18d01535bbd9b98ce","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-08T01:47:09.854Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf18d01535bbd9b98ce"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qdcf6c549f1d5a57ea719","speaker":"goh***","date":"2025-09-08T01:41:40.643Z","text":"我的理解不太一样：Luc利用债权人 把郭先生和G系列的全部投资捆绑在一起 再以郭先生有影响力处置G系列的投资，认为这个投资款郭先生有实际处置权，然后再通过这些路径追诉所有使用过G系列投资款的战友，这时候蒋干们就混了进来，Luc就可以挨个去找他们的麻烦，让很多人做了所谓的“污点证人”大半都是蒋干。这样受害者，证人就有了，然后检方利用这层关系，彻底将七哥和G系列捆绑起诉。起诉后用这些蒋干和不坚定的战友当受害人","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdcf6c549f1d5a57ea719"}}