{"id":"qabf09236755f9d982f7c","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":365,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:52:07.865Z","text":"你的phd一年赚多少钱？","edited":false,"reply_to":"qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf09236755f9d982f7c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf09236755f9d982f7c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qabf09236755f9d982f7c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qabf09236755f9d982f7c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q6831404bdff87ccee289","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:32:28.019Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6831404bdff87ccee289"},{"id":"qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:50:23.771Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4"},{"id":"qa22d953e03a906d50102","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:51:59.101Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa22d953e03a906d50102"},{"id":"qc444455ee0ce785ca78b","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:52:26.466Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc444455ee0ce785ca78b"},{"id":"qa0a375a85c6d6787c17a","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:54:13.361Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa0a375a85c6d6787c17a"},{"id":"q7dd225188693d16be33c","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-09T05:54:30.913Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dd225188693d16be33c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-09T05:50:23.771Z","text":"不是，螺丝哥，您千万冷静先听我说一句，你在这个点上完全搞错了。我是英文通，多少对北美刑侦实录有点兴趣懂点法律（且我好朋友是法学phd），但你不必信我，自己可以核查：美国法律意义上，嫌疑犯（suspect）在陪审团达成裁决的那一刻（达成verdict），就在法律意义上被定义为罪行成立（该人被convicted），其人变为法律意义上的罪犯、犯罪分子（convict）。只有该人成为罪犯，才能走入下一步量刑程序（sentencing）。这块儿是硬事实，不是我们的任何“逻辑”和推理的范畴。郭现在已经是罪犯，至于怎么量刑，跟前者本身无关，事实上也只有成为前者，才能进入量刑程序，否则就“程序不正义”了。螺丝哥我不知道你研究这么久怎么这个基础逻辑没搞清？请相信我，自己去查查，如果你之前是听别人说的，你一定是被骗了，要么是借助翻译时纰漏，对语言的内在逻辑不理解，翻译工具局限性很大，这个我们英语专业从业者非常了解，但很难跟外行讲清，我们可以有万般分歧，但这个点我是摸着良心提醒你。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb55f3d27e69d1c352bf4"}}