{"id":"qae9c9d61c887be1fec30","batch_id":"batch-000128","seq":163,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T17:19:47.135Z","text":"你说的，必须是在你能推翻陪审团定罪的基础上","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q7eb9e66add885f9d331b","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae9c9d61c887be1fec30","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb9e66add885f9d331b","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000128","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000128","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae9c9d61c887be1fec30","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qae9c9d61c887be1fec30/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qae9c9d61c887be1fec30","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8eb39ae0af293edcff52","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-29T17:16:42.343Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8eb39ae0af293edcff52"},{"id":"q449ae01dc7af06eafca8","speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-06-29T17:16:47.275Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q449ae01dc7af06eafca8"},{"id":"q2a1171ae0c63e27eb218","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-06-29T17:18:04.082Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2a1171ae0c63e27eb218"},{"id":"q3f03cfac576d6f61363f","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T17:20:14.407Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f03cfac576d6f61363f"},{"id":"q2617e84cea5864e20287","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-29T17:20:51.389Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2617e84cea5864e20287"},{"id":"q8800a27fb2b80e778d14","speaker":"sug***","date":"2026-06-29T17:22:27.233Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8800a27fb2b80e778d14"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q7eb9e66add885f9d331b","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T16:58:27.802Z","text":"不要教条，就算是这个修改后的初步没收令，只要是作为对被告们的金钱判决，就可以马上上诉，或者申请紧急强制令，无须等到最终没收令。因为只要金钱判决一给出，就把我们的具有信托受益权的投资款，通过政府的不正当程序和地区法院的不当裁量，强行变成了被告们的犯罪所得。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eb9e66add885f9d331b"}}