{"id":"qaf231f66974dcb03e9bc","batch_id":"batch-000139","seq":887,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-27T00:10:11.648Z","text":"你可能没有去看法条和托雷斯判词里的没收逻辑，实际上不读法条，只需常识即可知道，没收，就是没收的郭的个人财产，只有郭被认定为boss后，g系列里的投资款才成为了实质上的郭的个人财产，这些投资款，郭已经通过犯罪手段将其变成郭的个人财产，所以要没收，郭因为金钱判决负有对政府的债务，没收其个人财产来填补其债务。以你早期的发言，你是知道这个的，你就是要问，我也试着回答你。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q3ff9b89f38d057ea344e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf231f66974dcb03e9bc","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ff9b89f38d057ea344e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000139/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000139/pages/5","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf231f66974dcb03e9bc","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf231f66974dcb03e9bc/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qaf231f66974dcb03e9bc","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3ff9b89f38d057ea344e","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:00:51.031Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ff9b89f38d057ea344e"},{"id":"qc52deb529be3cfd3ab80","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:01:08.028Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc52deb529be3cfd3ab80"},{"id":"qa053dc3d37997c49d9c5","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:01:13.754Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa053dc3d37997c49d9c5"},{"id":"q5fc6fb431048912a1f73","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:11:01.237Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5fc6fb431048912a1f73"},{"id":"q6474f68525f872fc25e8","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:11:24.466Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6474f68525f872fc25e8"},{"id":"q89ff45703882fd30f6f3","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:11:39.896Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q89ff45703882fd30f6f3"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q3ff9b89f38d057ea344e","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-07-27T00:00:51.031Z","text":"没收不需要证明郭是boss","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3ff9b89f38d057ea344e"}}