{"id":"qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d","batch_id":"batch-000151","seq":14,"speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:34:09.256Z","text":"第9页更关键：它明确要求解释“你为什么是刑事犯罪的受害者”\n\n教程第9页把政府页面翻译得非常准确：\n\n“请说明您如何成为涉及本财产没收的刑事犯罪或相关犯罪的受害者。”\n\n还要求提供：\n\n重要日期；\n与你交易的人员；\n损失金额；\n导致损失的具体交易；\n银行记录、支票、电汇等证据。 Forfeiture-Petition-填写教程.pdf\n\n这就不能再简单解释成：\n\n“victim只是政府没收行为的victim。”\n\n因为这个网页本身明确问的是：\n\n你如何成为underlying criminal offense或related offense的victim？\n\n这和前面那份remission示范之间反而产生了一个很值得注意的内部差异。\n\n前一份示范写：\n\n“I am a victim of the government forfeiture…” Petition for remission  填表示范.pdf\n\n而这一份教程已经清楚展示政府真正问的是：\n\n你怎么成为导致没收的刑事犯罪的victim？ Forfeiture-Petition-填写教程.pdf\n\n也就是说，制作教程的人知道政府真正要求的victim含义是什么。\n\n这点很重要。\n\n⸻\n\n然后第10页出现了目前最关键的英文模板\n\n标题直接叫：\n\nStatement Template - 声明模板\n\n它让申请人写：\n\n“I am submitting this petition in connection with the forfeiture proceedings related to Case No. S4 23 CR. 118 (AT).”\n\n然后举例：\n\n2022年2月2日投资$100,000到Hamilton Opportunity Funds SPC；\n\n查看Yvette Wang的forfeiture notice以后，发现自己的投资在被没收资产中。\n\n到这里还是产权/资金追踪。\n\n但接下来两句话性质变了：\n\n“Based on this information, I believe my funds were misappropriated as part of the underlying criminal offense.”","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000151","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qb1461a956cfba3c5b73d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q9b96104de0860964f923","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:11:49.185Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b96104de0860964f923"},{"id":"qbe1e40c63622b3e291fb","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:24:27.350Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe1e40c63622b3e291fb"},{"id":"q1001487d30364c50784c","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:33:49.859Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1001487d30364c50784c"},{"id":"q0289e15e3535c39793b6","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:34:29.533Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0289e15e3535c39793b6"},{"id":"q967fc82a9f19b0b23c88","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:34:59.161Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q967fc82a9f19b0b23c88"},{"id":"qd89875e0ef516455eca4","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-08-24T21:35:08.309Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd89875e0ef516455eca4"}],"parent_message":null}