{"id":"qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":707,"speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:59:43.192Z","text":"谢谢分享，不过这个不是咱俩探讨的范畴。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb2c4de521203a3f9201f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qb2c4de521203a3f9201f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:34:56.501Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q032a9bf1e3b9481e5570"},{"id":"q178de2be69b3377a4aa7","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T13:49:48.243Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q178de2be69b3377a4aa7"},{"id":"q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:58:51.363Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23"},{"id":"q6456fecca641285c11b4","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:00:05.394Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6456fecca641285c11b4"},{"id":"q7f9fb3e12fdb4005bea8","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T14:00:26.503Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f9fb3e12fdb4005bea8"},{"id":"q6bc0419237f84fd23291","speaker":"zci***","date":"2025-07-13T14:01:45.945Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bc0419237f84fd23291"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q65e8cbaef841ade80f23","speaker":"gun***","date":"2025-07-13T13:58:51.363Z","text":"我认为即便有点瑕疵，也够不成系统性诈骗，我反复通过机器人论证的，最多是民事罚款。但是我本人更希望是检方刻意混淆和掩盖部分事实，就像螺丝哥说的，家庭开支家人消费和咱们没关系，但是我的意思退一万步讲，最多也就是管理不善的民事诉讼，绝对不能是诈骗。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65e8cbaef841ade80f23"}}