{"id":"qb3c172d7d38a50183898","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":686,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T17:30:01.682Z","text":"一般来说解决第三方纠纷 才能量刑 但也有特殊","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q00cc972fb5ff66c25290","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c172d7d38a50183898","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00cc972fb5ff66c25290","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c172d7d38a50183898","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb3c172d7d38a50183898/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qb3c172d7d38a50183898","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb4970e4cb475db8b71a1","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T17:19:19.102Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4970e4cb475db8b71a1"},{"id":"qfe8e0a5b419e512b0797","speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-24T17:20:19.078Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe8e0a5b419e512b0797"},{"id":"q358e339056df838aaaba","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T17:28:24.456Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q358e339056df838aaaba"},{"id":"q9e19fa1faf7ac1437129","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T17:30:23.391Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9e19fa1faf7ac1437129"},{"id":"q82f2188127a07df63111","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T17:30:28.281Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q82f2188127a07df63111"},{"id":"qeb6660f76b5aa45d1474","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T17:30:49.113Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb6660f76b5aa45d1474"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q00cc972fb5ff66c25290","speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-07-24T17:00:21.643Z","text":"怀疑这个群里根本没人读过《联邦刑事诉讼规则》32.2条-刑事没收程序  全文。\n\n按法条写的程序，就是要先把老郭判刑，然后慢慢处理所有第三方争财产动议，那条规则就是这么写的。\n\n所以检方马上要交的动议，内容也没有任何悬念，就是刑事没收令草稿，请法官在量刑当天批准，内容也会跟王雁平的没收令（刑事庭488号文件）一模一样，因为刑事案政府就扣押了这些资产。\n\n好了我预测完了，继续潜水。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00cc972fb5ff66c25290"}}