{"id":"qb4095ebcd64ec7efec8f","batch_id":"batch-000124","seq":635,"speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-23T06:24:08.084Z","text":"照你这么说，分配了hcn套现的，都算拿回了投资款！不知道法律规定的会是什么算法。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qe5983a33fa19410f296e","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4095ebcd64ec7efec8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5983a33fa19410f296e","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000124/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000124/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4095ebcd64ec7efec8f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4095ebcd64ec7efec8f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qb4095ebcd64ec7efec8f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q684a657b1d9a90dd5087","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-06-23T06:02:55.421Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q684a657b1d9a90dd5087"},{"id":"qcd0c00f904b4f1c9d0e6","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-23T06:05:01.143Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd0c00f904b4f1c9d0e6"},{"id":"q930f1f5726f15a19c5b9","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-23T06:23:25.466Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q930f1f5726f15a19c5b9"},{"id":"qe465e08d97a49a71446a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-23T06:26:02.760Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe465e08d97a49a71446a"},{"id":"qa6acf260152d350a1394","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-06-23T06:27:53.822Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa6acf260152d350a1394"},{"id":"qd74708d6e9dcc69e568b","speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-06-23T06:27:56.746Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd74708d6e9dcc69e568b"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe5983a33fa19410f296e","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-06-21T10:54:28.308Z","text":"那些去Luc那作債權人登記的，比如那[删节：成员身份]也登記了過億美元，他們就是來搶錢的。受害者合理要求他們必須出示當初的匯款憑證，拿不出過億的匯款記錄，就是詐騙！\n他們當初登記時，Luc有責任要求他們出示匯款憑證，如果沒有，那麼就是虛假陳述，Luc與債權人合謀欺詐！\n還有多少人已經出金拿回了投資款，他們的所謂損失是否應該減去？\nLuc那兒有多少這樣的個案呢？法庭應該保護真正的受害者的權益。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe5983a33fa19410f296e"}}