{"id":"qb66a9d961a4bdeca716a","batch_id":"batch-000013","seq":812,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-10T17:45:16.647Z","text":"我把前面的对话汇总了一下：\n\n法庭命令的这个逻辑是什么？总得有点道理吧？\n现在是：他们自己拉的屎，得自己咽回去！\n\nLuc登记的债权人都是高倍索赔，一万索赔一千万，这是虚假索赔，luc明知不对还是接受了。\n\n七哥直播的时候说了，就是等luc接受了这些虚假索赔之后，再让爆料革命里信心不坚定的的投资人去登记。\n\nLuc接受了之前的就必须接受后面的，相当于用这些墙头草给luc做好了套。\n\n网红不是共犯，是主犯；老郭被冤枉成 共犯，这才符合现实。\n\n债权人登记从根上就有问题，就是从luc接受了拱族那些人开始就有问题了，所以应该作废。\n\n也就是说，文贵还没被抓起来的时候，老班长就在文贵的眼皮底下干坏事，进行各种形式的鼓动，让大家参与夸大数字的虚假索赔，还成立了债权委员会，小飞象，铲共奇侠等都是其中的成员。法庭文件上写1000多人参与了这次虚假索赔。\n虚假索赔从法律层面来说也是一种妨碍司法，因为他们提供的是假信息、对司法公正产生了误导即妨碍。这些登记和委员会都是有铁证的。而文贵直播说的一句话却被法官判为“妨碍司法”。\n不管怎样说，在文贵的“妨碍司法”的判决前提下，这些债权人登记都是虚假无效的，作为文贵的Trustee Luc 却接纳这1000多人的虚假索赔，他是文贵的共谋犯，债权人是虚假的、更不能成为文贵刑事案中的受害者。","edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66a9d961a4bdeca716a","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000013","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66a9d961a4bdeca716a","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb66a9d961a4bdeca716a/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qb66a9d961a4bdeca716a","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qe4473322a3b227ab9614","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-07-10T17:40:14.592Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe4473322a3b227ab9614"},{"id":"qfc3805283f6a0ba5c2d7","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-10T17:40:59.070Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfc3805283f6a0ba5c2d7"},{"id":"qe91bbed413f00502fce2","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-10T17:43:25.079Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe91bbed413f00502fce2"},{"id":"qd4e00c64a7f5a212dc3e","speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-07-10T17:45:54.587Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4e00c64a7f5a212dc3e"},{"id":"q0e67deec44ce8f8fe473","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-10T17:46:22.153Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e67deec44ce8f8fe473"},{"id":"qd99f13fc369a65a1aed8","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-10T17:47:49.448Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd99f13fc369a65a1aed8"}],"parent_message":null}