{"id":"qba911386a76f24f5cd6d","batch_id":"batch-000143","seq":301,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-07T04:41:07.003Z","text":"自诉是去中心化的，自己代表自己，你为什么提供模板？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba911386a76f24f5cd6d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba911386a76f24f5cd6d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba911386a76f24f5cd6d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qba911386a76f24f5cd6d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q046866cd9304786959f5","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-07T04:39:40.813Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q046866cd9304786959f5"},{"id":"q6873cad24920079f59a5","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-07T04:40:11.094Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6873cad24920079f59a5"},{"id":"q59375facf411fa4d7e7a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-07T04:40:46.123Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q59375facf411fa4d7e7a"},{"id":"qfda1c7cb3874edd32a8d","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-08-07T04:41:31.496Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfda1c7cb3874edd32a8d"},{"id":"q4a2b402573bd4a67694c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T04:41:32.856Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4a2b402573bd4a67694c"},{"id":"qf82781a62d16c04571fb","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-07T04:42:39.734Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf82781a62d16c04571fb"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-06T12:50:48.070Z","text":"这个说法不准确： 在托雷斯720 没收令出来后， 共有2百多人做了853n， 我看了墓碑科技的推/知道720后，也在各个群疯狂的推进这个853n，我还写了模版。为此，被踢出各个群。\n还有人威胁我，说你不是律师不能提供模版叭叭叭…阻力非常大。\n\n我写的模版， 就是non-CVRA., 无辜第三方。\n\n这俩百多人在螺丝、瑞恩行动的基础上，也促成了郭案的走向的改变。 这2百多人应该都是老椅子投资者。\n\n与himam等无关\n\n另外， 关于没收， 我猜，只有郭出来了， 投资者才会拿钱回来，如果郭不出来， 没收令下来， 真正的投资者可能能拿40% 都算多的了。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5"}}