{"id":"qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":577,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-10-31T13:54:53.098Z","text":"魏那里是截胡根本没给联盟，也就没被冻结，张那里的是被冻结然后又退回来的，是吧。那张手里有多少？2700万？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qbc709737ee8d22f39cd4","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qf1a099e5604333db6ef5","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:46:57.324Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf1a099e5604333db6ef5"},{"id":"qeba16cc3be590e7b6d32","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:47:36.708Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeba16cc3be590e7b6d32"},{"id":"qd91b2ef4ea2ac1af3e11","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:53:01.229Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd91b2ef4ea2ac1af3e11"},{"id":"q354478d5b58226ba9157","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:55:49.051Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q354478d5b58226ba9157"},{"id":"qbdf4de02a696f946e502","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:57:20.077Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbdf4de02a696f946e502"},{"id":"q3d17e2a1bdbc9d24113e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T13:58:54.070Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d17e2a1bdbc9d24113e"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-31T11:26:10.355Z","text":"VOG/GTV，魏那里，还有5000w，没有给sec\nsec那里，已经有大概4.1亿，正好和王案没收清单，GTV的部分吻合\n起诉书里，GTV涉案 4.87，最后没收只有4.1，这个差额，很可能就是魏手里的VOG部分","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q19b9ed81ff3686ebd784"}}