{"id":"qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","batch_id":"batch-000117","seq":323,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-11T02:32:12.998Z","text":"所以Mahwah是检方和luc的痛点\n王案同意“没收”，有Tony，目前要垮\n没了这个，检方对冻结资产的处理，要重新认定，“没收”这个模式，可能没法进行下去，因为第三方受害者CCRA，可以反对\n23年8月提前用 没收-alter ego-G enterprise-郭-郭的破产案trustee 这个route 处理Mahwah\n就是司法欺诈","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qc4f64bc700f87ac0b774","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f64bc700f87ac0b774","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000117","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000117","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc028dd7534236f37a6ce/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q799b26b796213afecc90","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-11T02:30:29.636Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q799b26b796213afecc90"},{"id":"q4d34cd01a5d6c6d6678b","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-11T02:30:41.756Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d34cd01a5d6c6d6678b"},{"id":"qc4f64bc700f87ac0b774","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-11T02:31:23.318Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f64bc700f87ac0b774"},{"id":"q0a83717f9ef5bde31875","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-11T02:33:09.109Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0a83717f9ef5bde31875"},{"id":"q9c49fc9e77180151a472","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-06-11T02:33:56.538Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9c49fc9e77180151a472"},{"id":"q61b620b8303064fc7848","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-11T02:35:40.710Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61b620b8303064fc7848"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qc4f64bc700f87ac0b774","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-11T02:31:23.318Z","text":"这个案件的结构就是luc\"通过调查发现”，g系列都是债务人的替代自我，南区检察官办公室“觉得有道理”，既然名义上是投资项目，实际上却是替代自我，那就是诈骗，里面的每一个部分，都符合这个叙事。检方认为luc的主张有道理，才会写入起诉书，说那些投资项目对应的实体和组织都是被告实际拥有和控制。只要说的是司法程序走完之后再分钱，不是马上分，就没有问题。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4f64bc700f87ac0b774"}}