{"id":"qc14129b3d2994cbf201d","batch_id":"batch-000162","seq":884,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T03:45:52.630Z","text":"［用户 roy***］ \n我问的，可能和 ［用户 beg***］ 有重复\n简单说就是\nfarm loan MOS的455w+其他授权给MOS代理的400w\n最终走向是在长岛那里","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q77fb0e42b64b68332034","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc14129b3d2994cbf201d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77fb0e42b64b68332034","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000162/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc14129b3d2994cbf201d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc14129b3d2994cbf201d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc14129b3d2994cbf201d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q5c5eacd10e093062dc9d","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-09T03:39:44.349Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5c5eacd10e093062dc9d"},{"id":"qa302613520334f799e70","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-09T03:39:52.512Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa302613520334f799e70"},{"id":"q44f6a543ed00f1c2abd8","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-09T03:41:25.033Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q44f6a543ed00f1c2abd8"},{"id":"q7f2ca13018c9f2344ef5","speaker":"roy***","date":"2026-10-09T03:47:16.299Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7f2ca13018c9f2344ef5"},{"id":"q2279a181ae83d6511c9e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T03:48:59.313Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2279a181ae83d6511c9e"},{"id":"qbf2685f2bad78db82b35","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-09T03:54:48.605Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbf2685f2bad78db82b35"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q77fb0e42b64b68332034","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-09T03:32:06.099Z","text":"MOS代表自身公司，汇给maywind是455万，这是MOS农场的所有权，maywind已经返还\n同时MOS代理其他汇给maywind其他农场的farm loan投资，诉讼魏，这部分有400w，但G service和 Aeon，退给了MOS公司一共813w\n长岛一共收到 1268w\n问题是，455+400 这都是farm loan投资，在刑事案已经被定罪\n这部分钱，第一，有没有算进farm loan涉案金额？第二，有没有算入个人金钱判决？第三，有和解与资金返还，意思就是上述三个公司，承认收到了farm laon资金，并没有汇入aca capital，那么这部分损失，应该谁担责？\n［用户 roy***］","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q77fb0e42b64b68332034"}}