{"id":"qc3eadf81cb9af54585bd","batch_id":"batch-000165","seq":91,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T15:03:31.207Z","text":"在这个和解的官司，长岛的问题在于\n从刑事案开始，作为未起诉共谋之一，长岛已经没有资格代理其他农场借贷的投资者400w，去诉讼maywind。长岛不和投资者或者民事法庭披露，不合法\n同时，他用MOS.LLC，诉讼455w，要回1200w，根据他的共谋身份，这个算欺诈民事法庭，和解要被取消，他在刑事案的不起诉协议，也要取消","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q510f536301b53bf11b56","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3eadf81cb9af54585bd","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q510f536301b53bf11b56","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000165","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3eadf81cb9af54585bd","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc3eadf81cb9af54585bd/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc3eadf81cb9af54585bd","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qe30d50773ef39dc9181a","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T13:55:40.270Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe30d50773ef39dc9181a"},{"id":"q595359c83243dadb8316","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T14:00:28.655Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q595359c83243dadb8316"},{"id":"q510f536301b53bf11b56","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T14:04:41.862Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q510f536301b53bf11b56"},{"id":"qa3453e35774557ff41db","speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-22T15:10:05.747Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa3453e35774557ff41db"},{"id":"q316f787ca31e3b094b88","speaker":"lon***","date":"2026-10-22T15:10:27.999Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q316f787ca31e3b094b88"},{"id":"q8d9e7ff3a360c1848b3c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-22T19:26:04.750Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8d9e7ff3a360c1848b3c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q510f536301b53bf11b56","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-22T14:04:41.862Z","text":"而maywind并没有出现在起诉书，或者是初步没收清单\n借贷项目整体都属于涉案资产，那么检方要解释，和解的这笔钱，为什么不起诉？\n这个部分，在二巡已经有材料，也有cvra，检方绕不过去的\n所以夏诉maywind，和解拿回的钱，就是maywind/魏承认闷借贷的证据。\n说明魏之前做了伪证，那么协议取消，这部分，魏独立担责。\n魏之前的证词，不可信，案子也垮","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q510f536301b53bf11b56"}}