{"id":"qc48bc841900446efa13f","batch_id":"batch-000142","seq":969,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-06T12:54:40.734Z","text":"我的意思是，853n被青们几帮人，做局了","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc48bc841900446efa13f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000142/pages/5","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000142/pages/5","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc48bc841900446efa13f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc48bc841900446efa13f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc48bc841900446efa13f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3d95b51e1ff71dc93255","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-06T12:36:28.661Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3d95b51e1ff71dc93255"},{"id":"q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-06T12:50:48.070Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5"},{"id":"q935e093893272c201d87","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-06T12:51:16.549Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q935e093893272c201d87"},{"id":"q4929de8a9fc5b6bdd4f3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-06T12:55:27.430Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4929de8a9fc5b6bdd4f3"},{"id":"q68f11edc80ddbff4dec6","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-06T12:56:30.631Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68f11edc80ddbff4dec6"},{"id":"qd07befe9c1493b9c3a23","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-06T12:58:39.822Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd07befe9c1493b9c3a23"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-06T12:50:48.070Z","text":"这个说法不准确： 在托雷斯720 没收令出来后， 共有2百多人做了853n， 我看了墓碑科技的推/知道720后，也在各个群疯狂的推进这个853n，我还写了模版。为此，被踢出各个群。\n还有人威胁我，说你不是律师不能提供模版叭叭叭…阻力非常大。\n\n我写的模版， 就是non-CVRA., 无辜第三方。\n\n这俩百多人在螺丝、瑞恩行动的基础上，也促成了郭案的走向的改变。 这2百多人应该都是老椅子投资者。\n\n与himam等无关\n\n另外， 关于没收， 我猜，只有郭出来了， 投资者才会拿钱回来，如果郭不出来， 没收令下来， 真正的投资者可能能拿40% 都算多的了。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2e4b6d50f26f3f55c4f5"}}