{"id":"qc4b7464e6b7b271279f0","batch_id":"batch-000022","seq":42,"speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-01T06:31:00.908Z","text":"前天提示过，流程其实是这样的","edited":false,"reply_to":"qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b7464e6b7b271279f0","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000022","notice":"清洗后的社区讨论原话，按时间分批归档，固定首次采集版本，不随原作者后续编辑或删除更新，不含附件内容。含不同观点、推测与未经核实的主张，不代表本站结论或法院认定。导读仅供定位，请阅读完整发言及回复上下文，并结合一手文书核验。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b7464e6b7b271279f0","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc4b7464e6b7b271279f0/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc4b7464e6b7b271279f0","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q38ee941a30302206f245","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-01T06:12:32.702Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q38ee941a30302206f245"},{"id":"qe0a4468208d60c8ecad2","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-08-01T06:13:21.089Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe0a4468208d60c8ecad2"},{"id":"qe9fd5dc468a09b147338","speaker":"gon***","date":"2025-08-01T06:15:47.345Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe9fd5dc468a09b147338"},{"id":"qeb3a1639d08c7337bc57","speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-08-01T06:32:16.319Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb3a1639d08c7337bc57"},{"id":"qd8c3d1bbe25f56393321","speaker":"lon***","date":"2025-08-01T06:43:05.868Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8c3d1bbe25f56393321"},{"id":"qd0ec374a9b263103109c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-08-01T06:53:18.575Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd0ec374a9b263103109c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba","speaker":"pz0***","date":"2025-07-29T07:53:16.125Z","text":"我回来了。解答一下后续步骤：\n\n法官在初步没收令上签字发布（刑事诉讼规则32.2(2)(B)：初步没收令应当在量刑以前尽早发布，以便当事方有机会及早提出意见）\n\n老郭的律师提出意见（老郭律师710文件里说老郭“无法表态”，不知道看到716以后态度有什么变化）\n\n如果当事方对初步没收令有意见，法官可以开听证会（刑事诉讼规则32.2(1)(B)\n\n但是法官不需要考虑任何第三方对没收财产的权利主张（规则32.2(2)(A)）\n\n老郭量刑的时候，没收令从初步变成最终（规则32.2(4)(A)）\n\n然后才是政府发布没收通知（参考王雁平，1月6号量刑，政府的没收通知1月7号发出来）\n\n到这里才是瑞恩的动议交上去","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfdd0e7cae1ff4dc61cba"}}