{"id":"qc61399319728ec2baed2","batch_id":"batch-000019","seq":77,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-25T10:20:33.766Z","text":"就这个","edited":false,"reply_to":"qe3343d23536a8f76d2ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc61399319728ec2baed2","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3343d23536a8f76d2ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000019","notice":"清洗后的社区讨论原话，按时间分批归档，固定首次采集版本，不随原作者后续编辑或删除更新，不含附件内容。含不同观点、推测与未经核实的主张，不代表本站结论或法院认定。导读仅供定位，请阅读完整发言及回复上下文，并结合一手文书核验。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc61399319728ec2baed2","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc61399319728ec2baed2/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc61399319728ec2baed2","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q4dea0bb9f60cd057388f","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-25T10:17:49.767Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4dea0bb9f60cd057388f"},{"id":"qd680c9ad87a783a8ca4d","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-25T10:19:09.145Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd680c9ad87a783a8ca4d"},{"id":"q7d419c8099d6cec21d32","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-25T10:19:56.949Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7d419c8099d6cec21d32"},{"id":"qf4055010ad9748213a30","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-25T10:20:40.566Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf4055010ad9748213a30"},{"id":"q0cf59973d7b2cc9153ec","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-25T10:21:08.415Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0cf59973d7b2cc9153ec"},{"id":"qe6859626446851e16522","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-25T10:21:16.289Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6859626446851e16522"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe3343d23536a8f76d2ff","speaker":"him***","date":"2025-07-24T22:16:38.940Z","text":"文件344，非常重要的一句话\n--其次，夏和戴与所有农场领导人一样，都是被告的代理人，他们的陈述是在这种代理关系的范围内作出的。\n\n意思就是所有农场领导人，都是郭文贵共谋犯，当然联盟农场领导人都是共谋犯！检方文件382申请认定郭文贵有共谋的动议，也有一样或者差不多意思的描述，文件388法官认定郭文贵有同谋的命令，也引用了检方关于农场的描述。\n\n大概意思就是，联盟农场上面这些[屏蔽词]是法庭认定的郭文贵的共谋犯！\n\n\n那么，郭文贵的共谋犯参与或者主导的债权人登记，喜交所表格，数字银行登记，按照法庭文件解释，这就是共谋犯罪的犯罪过程或者犯罪延伸。那三个登记协议，都可以认为涉嫌或者就是共谋！要求法庭作废那三个登记协议，涉嫌共谋犯罪的登记或协议，怎么能来法庭要钱索赔啊？并且代理那三个登记和协议的卢克盖尔和Gavenman,我都有理由怀疑他们三个可能也是共谋犯！","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3343d23536a8f76d2ff"}}