{"id":"qc67865607799527a693c","batch_id":"batch-000119","seq":592,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-16T01:13:23.973Z","text":"不能说是受害者，钱就可以没收。钱必须由任何被起诉的被告控制并受益才能没收，不能把第三方限制在被告认罪的框架里。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qe6765aa72b8e924bfd35","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67865607799527a693c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6765aa72b8e924bfd35","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/3","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67865607799527a693c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc67865607799527a693c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc67865607799527a693c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3283b48d2a9c38d753cc","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-16T01:11:59.112Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3283b48d2a9c38d753cc"},{"id":"qffc850f95f5ebf9b81b7","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-16T01:12:15.789Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qffc850f95f5ebf9b81b7"},{"id":"qe2615ad86b276a650be0","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-16T01:12:17.936Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2615ad86b276a650be0"},{"id":"q41b37e2fb44908ac9150","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-16T01:13:55.225Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41b37e2fb44908ac9150"},{"id":"q141e9b6c57ffec94b9df","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-16T01:16:44.560Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q141e9b6c57ffec94b9df"},{"id":"q4783177572326c1ccb0c","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-16T01:17:20.763Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4783177572326c1ccb0c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe6765aa72b8e924bfd35","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-16T01:09:57.653Z","text":"如果法官说你们都是受害者，也不算乱来？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe6765aa72b8e924bfd35"}}