{"id":"qc7c6fdcc2937741fceb7","batch_id":"batch-000115","seq":407,"speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-03T08:06:46.296Z","text":"郭 2022-08-01 直播原话：\"必须对法官有绝对的尊重……坚持程序正义，到最后我们一定能赢\"。要论证这点该用这句，站得住且更有力。但郭的立场是两层并存：尊重制度+程序正义(战术) ＋ \"以法灭共\"清洗被中共渗透的部分(战略)。所以\"打崩 vs 回归正常\"是伪二分——郭要的是第三种：用法律在体制内打赢。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qcb0bb6c438f343fbd691","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7c6fdcc2937741fceb7","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb0bb6c438f343fbd691","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000115","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7c6fdcc2937741fceb7","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc7c6fdcc2937741fceb7/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc7c6fdcc2937741fceb7","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q787b2b137120aee02d89","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-03T08:02:51.285Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q787b2b137120aee02d89"},{"id":"qd02152e3577d6d1b3513","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-03T08:03:33.213Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd02152e3577d6d1b3513"},{"id":"q4fc27a3a401f8bedc5e9","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-03T08:03:39.546Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4fc27a3a401f8bedc5e9"},{"id":"qe7edbeb2935e4ac9c820","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-03T08:07:41.541Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7edbeb2935e4ac9c820"},{"id":"q7dc2dc137c02d52a0ddd","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-03T08:08:09.882Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7dc2dc137c02d52a0ddd"},{"id":"q26c55834ed481c851626","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-03T08:08:23.383Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q26c55834ed481c851626"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qcb0bb6c438f343fbd691","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-03T07:11:00.507Z","text":"［用户 ton***］  你可以问问 打崩法院 是否并非郭的本意","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb0bb6c438f343fbd691"}}