{"id":"qc8e97a3159055d5aba81","batch_id":"batch-000110","seq":206,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-11T14:11:56.798Z","text":"说白了，那时候就是开始打alter ego这个事了，而且只是民事案，辩护律师怕也没看懂内情，而且还没有到二巡阶段。\n类似luc诉郭美的案子，一直在扯皮。","edited":false,"reply_to":"qd5f82fb707304a6aac4d","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e97a3159055d5aba81","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f82fb707304a6aac4d","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000110","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e97a3159055d5aba81","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc8e97a3159055d5aba81/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc8e97a3159055d5aba81","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qf8bd5dce5bb9a656b889","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-05-11T14:02:47.587Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8bd5dce5bb9a656b889"},{"id":"q768bcfea318cec5c0c1a","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-05-11T14:06:02.115Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q768bcfea318cec5c0c1a"},{"id":"qd5f82fb707304a6aac4d","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-05-11T14:08:51.219Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f82fb707304a6aac4d"},{"id":"q715a43a87e201c947e19","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-05-11T14:16:10.322Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q715a43a87e201c947e19"},{"id":"q0ea7fefa0423e000f4ed","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-05-11T14:19:22.987Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0ea7fefa0423e000f4ed"},{"id":"q10f59a43b2642345563d","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-05-11T14:53:18.366Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q10f59a43b2642345563d"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qd5f82fb707304a6aac4d","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-05-11T14:08:51.219Z","text":"18楼在刑事案以前就输了吧，郭直播说了，他的律师垂头丧气，他一点不在乎","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd5f82fb707304a6aac4d"}}