{"id":"qc98e0774810bf97db878","batch_id":"batch-000067","seq":72,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-05T09:25:36.925Z","text":"主要是被告去说，\n我们一直的主张是：基于不正当程序的定罪基础上的没收令不合法。\n实际上被告最重要的还是司法欺诈，结构缺陷，定罪是建立于司法欺诈的司法表演的结果，根本就不是控辩对抗的结果。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q68a770ec57e819295f30","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98e0774810bf97db878","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a770ec57e819295f30","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000067","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98e0774810bf97db878","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc98e0774810bf97db878/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qc98e0774810bf97db878","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qb965a895ec2b03e1cc09","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-01-05T05:08:30.858Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb965a895ec2b03e1cc09"},{"id":"qf103d1c8f3a19751a024","speaker":"zha***","date":"2026-01-05T05:32:45.825Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf103d1c8f3a19751a024"},{"id":"q68a770ec57e819295f30","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-05T08:54:11.860Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a770ec57e819295f30"},{"id":"q1cd175bfff8f1719f5c9","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-05T12:07:19.713Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1cd175bfff8f1719f5c9"},{"id":"qe81d5dd7a057d8522d86","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-05T12:10:32.099Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe81d5dd7a057d8522d86"},{"id":"q7bba7e9db07fd820b7f8","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-01-05T12:17:40.122Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7bba7e9db07fd820b7f8"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q68a770ec57e819295f30","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-05T08:54:11.860Z","text":"这个第三方上诉可以提吗？还是被告上诉提？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q68a770ec57e819295f30"}}