{"id":"qca56cce387b4bc2497cf","batch_id":"batch-000127","seq":562,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:10:42.320Z","text":"［用户 beg***］ 意思就是","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca56cce387b4bc2497cf","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000127/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca56cce387b4bc2497cf","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qca56cce387b4bc2497cf/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qca56cce387b4bc2497cf","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qe57968c0dcf857794173","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:00.499Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe57968c0dcf857794173"},{"id":"q99822faedbd2954a3a01","speaker":"_ki***","date":"2026-06-29T03:04:04.005Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q99822faedbd2954a3a01"},{"id":"q41891464bbb3e373198c","speaker":"chu***","date":"2026-06-29T03:05:07.907Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q41891464bbb3e373198c"},{"id":"q00b52190a7e1b0578e6c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:10:50.670Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q00b52190a7e1b0578e6c"},{"id":"qf96db153e3d844306e96","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:11:47.826Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf96db153e3d844306e96"},{"id":"qd840f6138d6aa2592cd0","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-29T03:13:26.926Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd840f6138d6aa2592cd0"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q177104edc11e440ae79c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-29T02:59:52.260Z","text":"我只是大概算的。目前为止，没有对上账且政府没有任何说明的部分是13.8亿减去没收清单的银行账户里的6个多亿，再减去sec那里的4个多亿后，剩下的部分。您可能是没有搞清楚金钱判决与实际没收的区别。金钱判决，是政府主张被告们诈骗了13.8亿，这是被告们应该负责的金钱责任，穷尽追缴后追不回的部分，可以让被告们赔偿。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q177104edc11e440ae79c"}}