{"id":"qcac844645befb90ec5a3","batch_id":"batch-000071","seq":129,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-19T22:14:30.285Z","text":"受害人还得法院定性才行，853i是没收完后才能用","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q648846c31f20d10482ff","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcac844645befb90ec5a3","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648846c31f20d10482ff","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000071","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcac844645befb90ec5a3","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcac844645befb90ec5a3/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qcac844645befb90ec5a3","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q648846c31f20d10482ff","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-19T22:09:02.850Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648846c31f20d10482ff"},{"id":"qba415e3712a9b030bff2","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-19T22:10:05.664Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qba415e3712a9b030bff2"},{"id":"qb00f38dfe7c3da113b64","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-19T22:13:08.018Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb00f38dfe7c3da113b64"},{"id":"qbff7a5cca295ddcefc9f","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-19T22:16:26.145Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbff7a5cca295ddcefc9f"},{"id":"q62feb4a8c136e8f58dcb","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-01-19T22:17:27.223Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q62feb4a8c136e8f58dcb"},{"id":"q1438b09e9e36b8986181","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-01-19T22:20:29.264Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1438b09e9e36b8986181"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q648846c31f20d10482ff","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-01-19T22:09:02.850Z","text":"机器人说, 只是853i申请是不够的，但是如果他还在法庭发过cvra动议，然后法庭认定了之后，才会被当作受害人","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q648846c31f20d10482ff"}}