{"id":"qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c","batch_id":"batch-000018","seq":328,"speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:05:28.683Z","text":"郭和g系列无关 首先是债权人非法 给郭解绑","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000018/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qcb092f3c8dd8f4a5de9c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T06:53:43.991Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429"},{"id":"qe11d76075c3cc34cb775","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T07:04:12.690Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe11d76075c3cc34cb775"},{"id":"q5ace2c76845aea2c1548","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:04:48.677Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5ace2c76845aea2c1548"},{"id":"qa7b6db2d7a98bf5ee07d","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:06:13.489Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa7b6db2d7a98bf5ee07d"},{"id":"q7eddea5dcc5a2c0f05ae","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:06:30.506Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q7eddea5dcc5a2c0f05ae"},{"id":"q714ac0c6a0e128250564","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-24T07:06:40.464Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q714ac0c6a0e128250564"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-07-24T06:53:43.991Z","text":"这逻辑有点乱了，因为债权人郭被绑到g系列，因为被绑到g系列所以他被起诉诈骗。但是，债权人登记的时候郭跟g系列是无关的，那些人根本不是郭的债权人，所以当时破产庭把郭绑到g系列本身就是错的，现在的一切都是建立在这个当初破产庭错误的结论上的。所以要推翻债权人，还得去证明当时郭跟g系列无关，就跟gtv一样，所以真正的毒树应该是破产庭强行把g系列投资人认作郭的债权人。 是不是这个逻辑？ ［用户 rui***］","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9ccd563bcb471cd6d429"}}