{"id":"qcc9197ec10a03936623d","batch_id":"batch-000125","seq":111,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-24T15:24:25.385Z","text":"这个群早讨论过，没收G系列，包括GTV，来自王案，不是郭案","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q2ec8b9bb6637d8a5b6f9","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc9197ec10a03936623d","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec8b9bb6637d8a5b6f9","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000125","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000125","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc9197ec10a03936623d","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc9197ec10a03936623d/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qcc9197ec10a03936623d","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q5e17a64410272f5e2854","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-06-24T15:20:26.816Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5e17a64410272f5e2854"},{"id":"q9b32ea01d111a5ee58fb","speaker":".an***","date":"2026-06-24T15:23:13.167Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9b32ea01d111a5ee58fb"},{"id":"qbe8ef4b07356e29fa3dd","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-06-24T15:24:12.559Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe8ef4b07356e29fa3dd"},{"id":"q9688fcc1608e9dd8f3de","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-24T15:26:24.166Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9688fcc1608e9dd8f3de"},{"id":"q27bbaee19706b9d74fc8","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-24T15:26:56.891Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q27bbaee19706b9d74fc8"},{"id":"q74ac20a07deaf493db0a","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-24T15:27:03.139Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74ac20a07deaf493db0a"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q2ec8b9bb6637d8a5b6f9","speaker":"lui***","date":"2026-06-24T15:20:26.229Z","text":"政府自己的 sentencing 文件也承認：陪審團於 2024年7月16日 判郭文貴 Counts 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10,11 guilty，但 Counts 5,6,12 not guilty。其中 Count 5、6 正是 GTV Private Placement 的 wire fraud / securities fraud 實體罪名。 \n\n但要注意：政府仍主張 GTV 行為可作為 racketeering conspiracy、wire fraud conspiracy、securities fraud conspiracy、money laundering conspiracy 的相關 conduct 來計算 loss 或支持量刑；這是政府在判決後仍然試圖把 GTV 拉回來的核心路線。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q2ec8b9bb6637d8a5b6f9"}}