{"id":"qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96","batch_id":"batch-000077","seq":540,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:29.246Z","text":"你看733里面有写 luc有一个动议是让曼宁把鼓动债权人登记列为禁制令","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000077/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qcd35e6446c3e9907ec96","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qbe77901878947c520987","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-02-11T07:45:01.230Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbe77901878947c520987"},{"id":"q4e7ce3cb988dd9d951f6","speaker":"xin***","date":"2026-02-11T07:47:58.252Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e7ce3cb988dd9d951f6"},{"id":"q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T07:53:18.411Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000d86611c98ab8b91f7"},{"id":"qd154fc388c86f3d2c82c","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:41.678Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd154fc388c86f3d2c82c"},{"id":"q18b3085f8c09b2959920","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:48.054Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q18b3085f8c09b2959920"},{"id":"qdfd745cdc5590a192c72","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-02-11T07:54:49.305Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdfd745cdc5590a192c72"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q000d86611c98ab8b91f7","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-02-11T07:53:18.411Z","text":"那个禁制令法庭文件很有作用，从破产案附属对抗程序Case 22-05032里的文件128,133里的内容来看（这个禁制令是文件134），其内容很可能有：禁止债务人发布关于债权人的诽谤和虚假信息（如果确实有这样的内容，可能违反言论自由，这个禁制令本身可能违宪）。被告在23年1月23日的直播中谈了债权人登记的事情，luc在破产法庭指控其违反禁制令，在文件1418里甚至把英文认证翻译都展示出来，意思就是拱卒的债权是真的，被告这是在诽谤债权人，违反禁制令。然后破产庭法官一直没有批准，在文件2274里，luc撤销指控。如果拱卒的债权是真的，被告就是妥妥地违反禁制令，妨碍司法，曼宁就会批准，luc也不会撤销指控。现在这个文件在网络上被雪藏了，这本身就是问题。如果找到这个文件，再把对应的论证记录南区或者二巡，会完美补充司法欺诈的最重要一环。虽然这不能直接证明拱卒债权的虚假，但至少是间接证明。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q000d86611c98ab8b91f7"}}