{"id":"qcde0538dd7741f4d34c1","batch_id":"batch-000117","seq":343,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-06-11T02:44:16.093Z","text":"司法欺诈在更底层，所有权没有确定，luc用违法手段制造了g系列属于郭被司法确认后才会有的法律事实，美国政府明知或者应知这些是违法手段制造出的法律事实，依然将其展现给陪审团，误导陪审团认为g由被告实际拥有和控制。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcde0538dd7741f4d34c1","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000117/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000117/pages/2","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcde0538dd7741f4d34c1","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcde0538dd7741f4d34c1/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qcde0538dd7741f4d34c1","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qf8f64ccd72eba25f2d51","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-11T02:39:00.801Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf8f64ccd72eba25f2d51"},{"id":"q50093d06d9873201bb2d","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-11T02:39:29.486Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q50093d06d9873201bb2d"},{"id":"qaf829a9d00efc2aae354","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-06-11T02:39:37.112Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaf829a9d00efc2aae354"},{"id":"q764dee4a239e5adb94ab","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-11T02:46:35.559Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q764dee4a239e5adb94ab"},{"id":"qab6ef01b7f307fd41f78","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-11T02:47:16.041Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qab6ef01b7f307fd41f78"},{"id":"q73fa45682330bde2d2cd","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-11T02:47:20.289Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q73fa45682330bde2d2cd"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qc028dd7534236f37a6ce","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-06-11T02:32:12.998Z","text":"所以Mahwah是检方和luc的痛点\n王案同意“没收”，有Tony，目前要垮\n没了这个，检方对冻结资产的处理，要重新认定，“没收”这个模式，可能没法进行下去，因为第三方受害者CCRA，可以反对\n23年8月提前用 没收-alter ego-G enterprise-郭-郭的破产案trustee 这个route 处理Mahwah\n就是司法欺诈","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc028dd7534236f37a6ce"}}