{"id":"qce5b8752a311ab3f969f","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":175,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:15:46.704Z","text":"rico是另一个角度","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q3daea01a5a7c48fb1d4a","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce5b8752a311ab3f969f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3daea01a5a7c48fb1d4a","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce5b8752a311ab3f969f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce5b8752a311ab3f969f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qce5b8752a311ab3f969f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3501a0553c3ab8e5afd3","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:14:33.636Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3501a0553c3ab8e5afd3"},{"id":"q3daea01a5a7c48fb1d4a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T04:15:21.012Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3daea01a5a7c48fb1d4a"},{"id":"qd8f78996a0c90f6d0e6a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:15:27.795Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd8f78996a0c90f6d0e6a"},{"id":"q91e7cd698e256a4f357a","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:15:58.349Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q91e7cd698e256a4f357a"},{"id":"q4b1ae234fbd12a290d4b","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:16:15.720Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4b1ae234fbd12a290d4b"},{"id":"q74fcb8228a73d5de00b8","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T04:16:23.468Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q74fcb8228a73d5de00b8"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q3daea01a5a7c48fb1d4a","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-30T04:15:21.012Z","text":"张的行为，可以被解释成rico下的二次诈骗，就是第一次诈骗，没成，退款了，张再去拦截退款，在rico下，可以被解释成enterprise 的行为，郭在gtv无罪后，这迟迟退不到款，可能就成了张的独立责任了，或者是另一个版本的enterprise 实施的诈骗。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3daea01a5a7c48fb1d4a"}}