{"id":"qce7226fb7598877111b6","batch_id":"batch-000043","seq":571,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-29T12:45:34.744Z","text":"不矛盾。先转为司法冻结。转为司法冻结是没收的一环。现在有些初步没收令范围内的财产还在luc控制之下。第三方需要更进一步，政府也不相信，要交给独立第三方保管。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q83402c0fd134bae4f463","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7226fb7598877111b6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83402c0fd134bae4f463","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000043","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7226fb7598877111b6","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qce7226fb7598877111b6/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qce7226fb7598877111b6","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qcc472dd19ad1aafdd36f","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T11:35:27.304Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcc472dd19ad1aafdd36f"},{"id":"qaece5fb765fc501cf8ec","speaker":"zha***","date":"2025-09-29T11:37:50.329Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qaece5fb765fc501cf8ec"},{"id":"q83402c0fd134bae4f463","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T12:32:15.263Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83402c0fd134bae4f463"},{"id":"qc506d9b09e76466b3d2c","speaker":"reb***","date":"2025-09-29T12:47:40.390Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc506d9b09e76466b3d2c"},{"id":"qf76531c02258346205e3","speaker":"hon***","date":"2025-09-29T13:10:37.547Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf76531c02258346205e3"},{"id":"qeb97ff3826d108817308","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-09-29T13:26:53.891Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeb97ff3826d108817308"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q83402c0fd134bae4f463","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2025-09-29T12:32:15.263Z","text":"催促政府执行没收和第三方争议处理不矛盾吗？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q83402c0fd134bae4f463"}}