{"id":"qcfa1376162a554e4deb6","batch_id":"batch-000144","seq":430,"speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-08-11T03:09:44.965Z","text":"有案例， 不能以RICO 的名义 扣押无辜投资人的财产。这个在二巡的材料有打的","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qe756a61014238f0b7136","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfa1376162a554e4deb6","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe756a61014238f0b7136","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000144/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfa1376162a554e4deb6","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcfa1376162a554e4deb6/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qcfa1376162a554e4deb6","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qeae2b32bba35ac4b55d2","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T03:03:54.869Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qeae2b32bba35ac4b55d2"},{"id":"q8aaf87d429df50f83f4e","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T03:05:07.648Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aaf87d429df50f83f4e"},{"id":"qe756a61014238f0b7136","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-11T03:08:21.574Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe756a61014238f0b7136"},{"id":"q1022f96ca79eb443cb1c","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T03:10:54.562Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1022f96ca79eb443cb1c"},{"id":"q6fdb835fea5288fe5291","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-11T03:12:06.252Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6fdb835fea5288fe5291"},{"id":"q8aef0abdf50086f75d48","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-11T03:14:13.083Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8aef0abdf50086f75d48"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe756a61014238f0b7136","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-08-11T03:08:21.574Z","text":"托雷斯可以把G enterprise 里的财产用rico判成是郭的所以可以没收，但那些属于家人的，替代自我都没判，那就不能列在没收清单里被没收。难道是清单里的属于郭家人的汽车，游艇，房产，家具等，都被它们塞进了G enterprise 里的某个企业里了？这么多文件，也看不过来。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe756a61014238f0b7136"}}