{"id":"qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","batch_id":"batch-000166","seq":135,"speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T03:51:36.100Z","text":"［用户 kir***］ \n和拉魏丽红一样的套路，\n［用户 ntp***］ Jason这边的证据，可以拉张永兵回来\n有GTV投资，曾经委托给张退款，随后试图取消，但没有下文了，联系sec和张，都不给解释\n那么就可以CVRA介入，要求检方和张澄清\n1 这笔钱，在哪里\n2 因为张的共谋身份，没有资格接收这笔投资，他没有给投资者披露，造成损失，怎么办，谁来担责","text_en":null,"edited":true,"reply_to":"qe3611775e6ffd1267eea","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3611775e6ffd1267eea","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000166","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qd172ffe3b4f6cc6a5302","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q594ddc9462993541bcf1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T03:49:36.464Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q594ddc9462993541bcf1"},{"id":"q57c9a7b87deac4cbeeb1","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T03:49:55.874Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q57c9a7b87deac4cbeeb1"},{"id":"qb4484d8573d8c8fae3ca","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-30T03:50:07.358Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb4484d8573d8c8fae3ca"},{"id":"q09f4db64b6ea60172769","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-30T03:55:24.083Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q09f4db64b6ea60172769"},{"id":"qcbb305e456ddfa0b778e","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-30T03:57:07.052Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcbb305e456ddfa0b778e"},{"id":"qa15ced8a33547789fe75","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-30T03:57:25.041Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa15ced8a33547789fe75"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qe3611775e6ffd1267eea","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-30T03:42:38.345Z","text":"先把张永兵拉回刑事案\nJason有申请公平基金退款，而且曾经委托给张\nJason就可以用CVRA，这笔钱在哪里？既然有公平基金退款，但是王案里，为什么GTV还在初步没收清单","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe3611775e6ffd1267eea"}}