{"id":"qd33e78438fa192d8654e","batch_id":"batch-000164","seq":242,"speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-18T21:37:29.721Z","text":"魏把一部分农场借贷退给了VOG","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q5966332b140d190bc677","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd33e78438fa192d8654e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5966332b140d190bc677","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/2","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000164/pages/2","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd33e78438fa192d8654e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd33e78438fa192d8654e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qd33e78438fa192d8654e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q58629c0754aa65258b23","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-10-18T20:15:12.330Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q58629c0754aa65258b23"},{"id":"q4d84c7cab474259535bd","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-18T21:11:44.140Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4d84c7cab474259535bd"},{"id":"qa4caf70f2e419723c7ed","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-10-18T21:32:26.936Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa4caf70f2e419723c7ed"},{"id":"q98a164f926aa9072e56b","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-10-18T21:40:08.556Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q98a164f926aa9072e56b"},{"id":"qcf533ab73feb520c1c6c","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-10-18T21:43:29.248Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qcf533ab73feb520c1c6c"},{"id":"qb64f87de4a9a4fb0b72c","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-10-18T21:44:03.346Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qb64f87de4a9a4fb0b72c"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q5966332b140d190bc677","speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-10-18T11:15:50.760Z","text":"夏跟魏，交易的部分面上是农场借贷。只是不知道，之前魏收的vog款，是否退回给了sec然后到公平基金，以及，如果没有退回，魏是否把它和农场借贷（包括凤凰农场和其它农场）进行了混同。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5966332b140d190bc677"}}