{"id":"qd4551ff086346da0f09e","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":326,"speaker":"reb***","date":"2026-07-06T13:55:11.461Z","text":"乱动钱，就是直接坐实虚假陈述，诈骗意图，实质性。不能动就是不能动。","edited":false,"reply_to":"q6bcca45012a2d61f01fb","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4551ff086346da0f09e","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bcca45012a2d61f01fb","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4551ff086346da0f09e","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4551ff086346da0f09e/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qd4551ff086346da0f09e","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q5835f4804e0de8683b0d","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-06T13:50:33.632Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5835f4804e0de8683b0d"},{"id":"q8b2bc6f254788928121b","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-06T13:51:55.058Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8b2bc6f254788928121b"},{"id":"q1f81ad5726e76845d7b7","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-06T13:54:21.894Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q1f81ad5726e76845d7b7"},{"id":"q5336504b4ccb8e3ccc01","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-06T13:56:14.321Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q5336504b4ccb8e3ccc01"},{"id":"qc63dfaa77a2f78257981","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-06T14:05:04.305Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc63dfaa77a2f78257981"},{"id":"qe7cf1f500cc9f2c142e7","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-06T14:08:50.641Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe7cf1f500cc9f2c142e7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q6bcca45012a2d61f01fb","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-07-06T13:47:23.741Z","text":"我不确定，余转钱也许是做投资了，他一直帮郭家族打理投资，已经说过了，钱不能只是躺在银行帐上，当然要拿来投资，至于到他私人帐户的，是不是提的管理费什么的，这个要他本人出庭才知道，现在关键的问题是他好像没发声说明什么，他的律师有替他说过什么吗？                                                       不能说他动钱了就是诈骗，这跟检方说钱转来转去就是洗钱不是一个道理？钱不动，不就成了死钱了吗，王转GTV的钱去投资对冲基金也是，如果投资亏了，也是GTV公司背，不能说投资对冲基金就是诈骗投资人的钱了","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6bcca45012a2d61f01fb"}}