{"id":"qd61487e92026051b8849","batch_id":"batch-000119","seq":483,"speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-15T23:38:42.887Z","text":"第三方的钱是郭集团的钱啊","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"qd238b095c9facad4d593","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd61487e92026051b8849","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd238b095c9facad4d593","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000119/pages/3","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd61487e92026051b8849","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd61487e92026051b8849/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qd61487e92026051b8849","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q8f857f774c036bb0856b","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-15T23:38:25.043Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f857f774c036bb0856b"},{"id":"q9a83a01dcc45502840d6","speaker":"ton***","date":"2026-06-15T23:38:26.648Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9a83a01dcc45502840d6"},{"id":"q22bc8abfcab2b609af47","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-15T23:38:30.407Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q22bc8abfcab2b609af47"},{"id":"q0e4fb76f0108055e69dd","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-15T23:38:56.230Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0e4fb76f0108055e69dd"},{"id":"q9cfc15acc68817a03746","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-15T23:38:57.451Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q9cfc15acc68817a03746"},{"id":"q3a3e051ccc46d773e3f4","speaker":"him***","date":"2026-06-15T23:39:06.003Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3a3e051ccc46d773e3f4"}],"parent_message":{"id":"qd238b095c9facad4d593","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-06-15T23:36:47.418Z","text":"定罪定的是郭的罪， 在认定RICO 郭集团的情况下； 现在的问题是， 第三方的钱是郭集团的钱吗？","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd238b095c9facad4d593"}}