{"id":"qdaebbab6e194efd59a8f","batch_id":"batch-000143","seq":94,"speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-06T16:02:32.293Z","text":"如果没有第三方 盖尔上去就是和检方合作","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q6854f72dc28774b6f9a3","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaebbab6e194efd59a8f","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6854f72dc28774b6f9a3","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000143","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaebbab6e194efd59a8f","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdaebbab6e194efd59a8f/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qdaebbab6e194efd59a8f","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"q3b9705484ea3c86bbb96","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-06T15:57:40.286Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3b9705484ea3c86bbb96"},{"id":"q6854f72dc28774b6f9a3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-06T15:57:44.888Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6854f72dc28774b6f9a3"},{"id":"q0b679c1483e092eac492","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-06T15:57:52.753Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q0b679c1483e092eac492"},{"id":"q806d91da2528690ffa6e","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-06T16:02:44.595Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q806d91da2528690ffa6e"},{"id":"q6e7976503ff049b66a24","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-06T16:09:20.200Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6e7976503ff049b66a24"},{"id":"qc715765bcab49a208c91","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-08-06T16:10:30.520Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc715765bcab49a208c91"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q6854f72dc28774b6f9a3","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-08-06T15:57:44.888Z","text":"那不就对了，盖尔带6000人上去，正好被检方拿去用，因为受害人太多，不能直接赔偿投资者，只能走没收再赦免返还","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6854f72dc28774b6f9a3"}}