{"id":"qdbc428b8bc8968d5b2d1","batch_id":"batch-000014","seq":523,"speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-13T06:29:34.905Z","text":"我把前面的对话汇总了一下：\n\n法庭命令的这个逻辑是什么？总得有点道理吧？\n现在是：他们自己拉的屎，得自己咽回去！\n\nLuc登记的债权人都是高倍索赔，一万索赔一千万，这是虚假索赔，luc明知不对还是接受了。\n\n七哥直播的时候说了，就是等luc接受了这些虚假索赔之后，再让爆料革命里信心不坚定的的投资人去登记。\n\nLuc接受了之前的就必须接受后面的，相当于用这些墙头草给luc做好了套。\n\n网红不是共犯，是主犯；老郭被冤枉成 共犯，这才符合现实。\n\n债权人登记从根上就有问题，就是从luc接受了拱族那些人开始就有问题了，所以应该作废。\n\n也就是说，文贵还没被抓起来的时候，老班长就在文贵的眼皮底下干坏事，进行各种形式的鼓动，让大家参与夸大数字的虚假索赔，还成立了债权委员会，小飞象，铲共奇侠等都是其中的成员。法庭文件上写1000多人参与了这次虚假索赔。\n虚假索赔从法律层面来说也是一种妨碍司法，因为他们提供的是假信息、对司法公正产生了误导即妨碍。这些登记和委员会都是有铁证的。而文贵直播说的一句话却被法官判为“妨碍司法”。\n不管怎样说，在文贵的“妨碍司法”的判决前提下，这些债权人登记都是虚假无效的，作为文贵的Trustee Luc 却接纳这1000多人的虚假索赔，他是文贵的共谋犯，债权人是虚假的、更不能成为文贵刑事案中的受害者。\n\n而且债权人登记是如何影响抓捕、定罪、破产案和刑事案关联，这些都要让luc来说清楚。\n\n文贵和灭爆之间在互相下套。但文贵做的的确是阳谋的下套。他只是直播说说而已。而这帮家伙还真的操作起来了。\n\nLuc吃相难看，两头吃、多头吃，他还跑去跟检方合作，把文贵抓起来。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":null,"reply_status":"none","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc428b8bc8968d5b2d1","reply_url":null,"reply_label":"","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014/pages/3","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000014/pages/3","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc428b8bc8968d5b2d1","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qdbc428b8bc8968d5b2d1/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qdbc428b8bc8968d5b2d1","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qfe0405435c59ba00f3d6","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T05:56:00.878Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qfe0405435c59ba00f3d6"},{"id":"qf6671ca5781d901cbd7d","speaker":"rui***","date":"2025-07-13T05:56:26.899Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf6671ca5781d901cbd7d"},{"id":"q4e4abe3918bb6e1cb6a3","speaker":"sar***","date":"2025-07-13T06:28:48.827Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q4e4abe3918bb6e1cb6a3"},{"id":"qe2a83be5cff72f82310e","speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T06:35:23.239Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe2a83be5cff72f82310e"},{"id":"q475b3ef3a828d72a5d05","speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T06:37:26.444Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q475b3ef3a828d72a5d05"},{"id":"q30211615efdca52ea373","speaker":"nev***","date":"2025-07-13T06:37:34.297Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q30211615efdca52ea373"}],"parent_message":null}