{"id":"qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","batch_id":"batch-000132","seq":705,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:53:19.937Z","text":"直接賠償，是否就是像公平基金那樣的？","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132/pages/4","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000132/pages/4","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qe1fbd4512070b1bce15a","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qd4f462bbf17bec65ed71","speaker":"beg***","date":"2026-07-07T05:47:54.026Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd4f462bbf17bec65ed71"},{"id":"qd758be659d4e0bb8483d","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:50:16.354Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qd758be659d4e0bb8483d"},{"id":"q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:51:06.936Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445"},{"id":"q127bcc74905e91ece399","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:53:53.279Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q127bcc74905e91ece399"},{"id":"q65830227820aae6c8f47","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-07-07T05:55:47.568Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q65830227820aae6c8f47"},{"id":"q224f183e1b270f9c3ef7","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:57:49.290Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q224f183e1b270f9c3ef7"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445","speaker":"joh***","date":"2026-07-07T05:51:06.936Z","text":"王同意forfeiture没收 替代 restitution直接赔偿\n郭破产，对刑事案涉案资产的处置，没有发言权\n检方再提议，郭案涉案人数多，要参考王案\n这就是做局，王案的没收，套郭案","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q61a0f6e3b54e6f9f2445"}}