{"id":"qe342f86df25fd2e6fb3c","batch_id":"batch-000090","seq":500,"speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-20T06:26:23.399Z","text":"现在的形势是，美国司法各方联合起来打压被告和第三方，明目张胆的。庭外又有联盟和无知群众不断递刀子，现在能做的就是给被告量刑后上诉准备尽可能充足的证据","edited":false,"reply_to":"q03ce9790c4bdd32d2269","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe342f86df25fd2e6fb3c","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03ce9790c4bdd32d2269","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000090","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000090","notice":"围绕郭文贵案的社区讨论与观点交锋。发言仅代表讨论者观点，不等同于法院认定。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe342f86df25fd2e6fb3c","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe342f86df25fd2e6fb3c/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qe342f86df25fd2e6fb3c","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qc2763c717d5b7927bc51","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-20T05:54:52.710Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qc2763c717d5b7927bc51"},{"id":"q53c671090da5bdaea623","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-20T06:23:26.240Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q53c671090da5bdaea623"},{"id":"q8f003e45610050992799","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-20T06:26:20.775Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q8f003e45610050992799"},{"id":"q75a19939ac9998e6d297","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-03-20T06:29:27.491Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q75a19939ac9998e6d297"},{"id":"qbeb595fd6b2788b2a328","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-03-20T06:29:36.281Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qbeb595fd6b2788b2a328"},{"id":"qff1353e8fc04b9b8bbd9","speaker":"sar***","date":"2026-03-20T06:31:05.305Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qff1353e8fc04b9b8bbd9"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q03ce9790c4bdd32d2269","speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-03-19T23:46:58.594Z","text":"美國刑法中的「程序正義」（Procedural Justice）基於憲法修正案，指審判過程中的公平、透明與合理性，核心在於法規所規定的程序必須「正當」（Due Process）。它強調「過程」比結果更重要，認為唯有通過公正的程序，才能確保結果的合法性與正當性。程序正義保護人民在面對國家強大力量時，不會遭受肆意羈押、懲罰或財產沒收。 \n\n程序正義的核心原則：\n「正當法律程序」（Due Process of Law）： 源自《大憲章》，美國憲法第五與第十四修正案明確規定，不得未經正當法律程序剝奪任何人的生命、自由或財產。\n看得見的正義： 程序必須公開、透明且客觀。\n\n非法證據排除規則： 違反合法程序取得的證據（毒樹之果），不得在法庭上採信。\n\n中立與參與： 法官需中立，當事人有權利參與程序，享有陳述權、辯護權。\n米蘭達警告（Miranda Warning）： 被告有權保持沉默，防止自證其罪。 \n\n程序正義與實體正義的差異：\n程序正義（看得見的正義）： 強調遵循法定規則、中立處理、尊重權利，確保行為合法。\n實體正義（結果正義）： 強調真相與懲惡揚善，追求實質公正，但若無程序支持，易發生冤假錯案。 \n\n\n\n在美國司法中，如果證據獲取過程不符合程序正義，即使被告明顯有罪，法庭也可能因程序瑕疵而宣布其無罪，這體現了美國刑法中「過程正義重於結果正義」的傳統。","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q03ce9790c4bdd32d2269"}}