{"id":"qe47509eaaabaa0151908","batch_id":"batch-000154","seq":130,"speaker":"hel***","date":"2026-08-28T20:18:10.231Z","text":"那是自然！刑事案件不存在了就沒有任何的沒收。","text_en":null,"edited":false,"reply_to":"q37665c24f4440f2dc586","reply_status":"available","has_attachment":false,"url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe47509eaaabaa0151908","reply_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37665c24f4440f2dc586","reply_label":"查看被回复的发言（跨批次）","batch_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154","batch_canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/batches/batch-000154","notice":"这里汇集爆料革命参与者围绕郭文贵案的持续讨论，包括长期深度参与者及自述投入真金白银的投资者。他们分享亲历过程、资金投入与后续遭遇，并结合案卷展开追问、核对和观点交锋。这些来自事件内部的经验与细节，为理解事件经过和投资者处境提供了外部报道之外的重要视角。请结合具体发言判断其经历与依据，引用时保留发言者、时间和上下文。","content_type":"discussion_message","canonical_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe47509eaaabaa0151908","markdown_url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qe47509eaaabaa0151908/markdown","json_url":"https://mubeitech.com/api/discussion-messages/qe47509eaaabaa0151908","surrounding_messages":[{"id":"qa8985584e30d21d487f2","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-28T19:43:46.722Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qa8985584e30d21d487f2"},{"id":"q3f01804ea7dff3d3aa4d","speaker":"may***","date":"2026-08-28T19:44:05.038Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q3f01804ea7dff3d3aa4d"},{"id":"q04dbd5a4e7d4cfeace42","speaker":"spr***","date":"2026-08-28T20:15:41.722Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q04dbd5a4e7d4cfeace42"},{"id":"q6b0cfe62dd3874455bee","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-28T22:47:23.310Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q6b0cfe62dd3874455bee"},{"id":"q11b9fa305c82214991bf","speaker":"kir***","date":"2026-08-28T22:47:57.660Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q11b9fa305c82214991bf"},{"id":"qf37f6e615c981adffc41","speaker":"Sap***","date":"2026-08-28T23:01:59.117Z","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/qf37f6e615c981adffc41"}],"parent_message":{"id":"q37665c24f4440f2dc586","speaker":"ntp***","date":"2026-08-28T19:38:33.537Z","text":"如果刑事案是因为主权冲突被推翻，那破产案是不是也没有权力没收这笔钱","url":"https://mubeitech.com/discussions/messages/q37665c24f4440f2dc586"}}